L.A. Police Union Asks Where’s Outrage on Attempted Murder of a Cop

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The union that represents almost 10,000 rank-and-file Los Angeles police officers wants to know where’s the outrage for the attempted murder on a cop.

The question is being poised in the wake of  a LAPD SWAT officer being severely injured during a shootout following a pursuit in South Los Angeles and after a sheriff’s deputy is forced to undergo surgery for serious injuries he suffered when a man hit him in the head.

What say you?  Is the community obligated to speak out in support of cops who are injured or killed on the job in the same manner that they do when a cop kills a civilian?  If so why, if not why?  Does the risk of injury or fatality come with the job?  Or are Angeleno’s being hypocrites when they don’t speak out on the attempted murders of cops by civilians?

Below is part of an op-ed penned by the board of directors of the Los Angeles Police Protective League.   While the article is mainly targeting the Los Angeles Times editorial board it brings up some interesting points.


Crickets chirp as we wait for the LA Times Editorial Board to chime in with some suggestions on police tactics following these incidents.

City residents, law enforcement, community members and editorial writers should be alarmed when those whose job it is to fight crime on a daily basis are being targeted for murder. Why do otherwise reasoned individuals—despite evidence before them to the contrary—become reflexively critical of police? Why do these individuals jump to the twisted conclusion that police officers’ lives are any less endangered when encountering “unarmed” suspects than when they’re staring down the barrel of a gun? Why do these same individuals assume all officer-involved shootings—while always tragic—are always “bad” shootings? These individuals are cherry-picking the facts and doing a disservice to the communities they serve.

The disconnect between reality and the world in which newspaper editorial boards live in cannot not be more starkly contrasted than the LA Times editorial which pontificated about the Ezell Ford shooting with the following: “It is hard to believe that police cannot refine their encounters with unarmed citizens to avoid the use of deadly force.” In other words, according to the Times, “unarmed” residents pose no threat to officers.

The reality is that when somebody attacks a police officer, they should expect the reaction to their attack will be swift, sure and met with enough force to end the assault. As LAPPL President Tyler Izen told the Times, “While waiting for the facts to be determined, I feel the need to restate the obvious. When a person attempts to take an officer’s gun from them, no matter their physical or mental condition, we should expect an officer to respond accordingly to save their life—and that likely includes the use of deadly force.”

We also note with dismay that while compelled to devote numerous pages of coverage to the unfolding situation in Ferguson, Missouri, the Los Angeles Times Editorial Board cannot be stirred to write even a murmur of protest over the violence directed against police officers there. Apparently, throwing Molotov cocktail bottles, rocks, and other debris at police officers is just not worthy of their commentary. Yet, you can be sure that if a police officer were the perpetrator of equivalent violence, entire forests would be decimated to print the hand-wringing editorials from the Los Angeles Times.

If a suspect takes or attempts to take an officer’s gun by force, he has sent a clear message that he intends to murder that officer and possibly others, and must be stopped for the safety of all. Whether that aggressive suspect is under the influence of a controlled substance, alcohol, or has a mental illness, the target of his attack will be in immediate danger nonetheless. When anyone grabs for the officer’s gun, they become an armed suspect, and in most cases, predetermined the tragic outcome of events.

Public safety requires a strong two-way partnership. We need to make it clear that Los Angeles is a city in which violence against the community or its police officers is never tolerated. The dedicated men and women of the Los Angeles Police Department, who serve to protect our communities, deserve all the tools and support the community can possibly provide. The LAPPL asks the public and our community leaders to continue to support our officers and make sure that criminals do not deter them from making Los Angeles the safest big city in America.

 

The Court of Public Opinion

  • Joe Citizen

    Well where is the outrage from the community, criminals try and kill your officers. The very same people you will call when your car is stolen, or home vandalized… Everyone has right to live, but when it’s an officer nobody cares. Newton Street Police Station is know as “Shootin Newton” not because the cops kill people, but it’s known as “Shootin Newton” due to high number of murders in the 80’s and 90’s, that’s right…. violent crimes….

  • Mr Smith

    The mere fact that you’re asking this question reveals your unbelievable bias.

    Yes, the community is obliged to support the men & women who daily put their life on the line for us. If you’re seriously asking that question, your parents did a horrendous disservice to the community while raising you.

  • Emil Washington

    Lady, if you can’t sort out whether to cheer or condemn cop-killers, you need to turn off the hip-hop and get your mind and heart cleaned out.

    Seriously, you are one twisted chick.

  • CityEye

    The problem is the media plain and simple. As long as they are desperate for stories and create and incite the bs will continue. We have no credible journalism in LA anymore. We have a bunch of lazy, uneducated so called reporters not reporting facts but rumor. Read this story.
    Ferguson media gets into the story. The line between news reporting and opinion is blurring in Ferguson, Missouri, as some national journalists inject their
    perspective and even themselves into the story.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2014/08/ferguson-media-110169.html

  • Greggiex

    We are supposed to debate whether attacks on officers should or should not be condemned by the community or the media? Seriously???? Any community that does not value the lives of its officers and does not support the laws the officers are sworn to uphold, does not deserve the protection that the officers provide.

    Idiots.

  • Mr Smith

    She’s a race-baiter and cop-hater…proves it in almost every post. Don’t count on ever hearing from her though – she also refuses to respond to any rational criticism (she claims she’s easy to find, apparently she’s not so easy to get a reply from).

    And that’s not to say there isn’t misconduct within LAPD. Just like any big organization of course there’s misconduct at times. But to hear Jasmyne tell it, the LAPD is just institutionalized racism that begets constant violence towards minorities (especially blacks).

    Have a look at her pictures under the “Who I Be” section; you can count on a single hand the white people with whom she’s willing to be associated. I’d submit that Jasmyne is far more racist than most of the people she whines about.

  • Johnny Rico

    You are all missing the point. Our job as police officers is to safe guard the lives and property of the people we serve. That’s the job we signed up for and it is the job from which we collect a paycheck. People expect us to do our jobs. They expect that we will sometimes have to pay the ultimate price. The public may experience grief when an officer is killed. They may experience anger at the individual who killed the officer. They may even experience outrage at a political system that has failed to keep predators from committing such crimes.

    Outrage, however, is an emotion that is reserved for those who violate a trust. Outrage is an emotion that is reserved for politicians who lie, cheat, or steal. Outrage is reserved for the accountant who embezzled his employer’s hard earned money. Outrage is reserved for crooked bankers. And, it is rightfully reserved for crooked cops.

    People expect that bad guys will try to kill cops and that they will sometimes be successful in these attempts. The public gives us a badge, a gun, and a high degree of trust to serve as their shield against those who would do them harm. It is a shame when an officer is killed in the line of duty. It is a cause for grieving. It is even a matter of honor for those of us who realize that a police officer has chosen to assume this risk and this duty and has sacrificed his life in the line of duty. It is not, however, a reason for the public to experience outrage.

  • Comptonhubcity00

    Are we to assume all cops are good then? Johnny Rico if serving and protecting is what you police are supposed to do then where does police harassment fall in with that? Let’s not pretend all police are good or there haven’t been bad shootings. If your job is to protect and serve all of us why do I get asked what gang am I from for no reason? Why do I get pulled over and pulled out my car with no explanation as of why its happening then find out its because of loud music? Loud music is just a ticket pulling me out my car like I was in a high speed chase for loud music is serving and protecting who exactly? It’s very good reason why we don’t like police and you can blame the asshole cops that give the good ones a bad name

  • Comptonhubcity00

    Don’t forget the cop that killed the undercover cop years ago that’s under investigation right now , he said he wished the car was filled with black people so he could of killed more.

  • Mr Smith

    So guilt by association works so that you can lump the good cops in with the bad cops.

    But if you’re driving down the road, looking like a gangbanger, driving like a gangbanger, playing loud music like a gangbanger – the cops are in the wrong for lumping you in with gangbangers. You’re a fool.

  • Johnny Rico

    You missed my point. My comments were not aimed at you nor were they aimed at the civilian audience in general. My comments were aimed at those police officers who seem to expect the average Joe to experience a sense of outrage when a cop is killed. My point was that people don’t feel outrage when a cop is murdered because the public does not have a bond of trust with the killer. Since there is no bond of trust, it can’t be violated. If a bond of trust is not violated, there is no outrage.

    In response to your issue, no, you should not assume that all cops are good. Cops are people. There are good cops, bad cops, and plenty of cops who are just going through the motions, tryin to earn a paycheck. I don’t think that you should paint all cops with the same brush but that is just my opinion.

    I will say that you should feel a sense of outrage when cops are crooked, when they violate the law, when they treat you poorly without justification. The public at large invests a great deal of trust in police officers. They should experience a sense of outrage when that trust is violated.

  • Johnny Rico

    I did not forget Frank Lyga. I did not forget Kevin Gaines.

    I remember Kevin as a teenager. He was a good hearted kid and was often the one trying to cheer up others. It has been a long time since then but, if I remember correctly, Kevin was walking a fine line as a youth. He was not a gang member nor was he a gang associate. He tried hard to avoid making enemies out of the gangs but he also tried hard to avoid becoming one of them. As I recall, he was pretty successful at both.

    I lost touch with Kevin before we graduated from high school. I had no idea that he had joined the LAPD until he was dead. I don’t think that he knew I had joined the Department.

    After his death, I made a point of talking with some of Kevin’s friends on the LAPD. They told me that Kevin was hit pretty hard by the break up of his relationship. They told me that he seemed disillusioned with the LAPD. They told me that he had become a darker, angrier, more bitter man. Some of his friends were seriously worried about him. Others seemed to assume that it was just the kind of emotional slump that many cops go through during a break up and/or when they are having a hard time at work. They assumed he would pull out of it as time passed.

    My sources within the LAPD inform me that Kevin had a prior personnel complaint for a road rage incident. During that incident, Kevin was alleged to have pointed his pistol at the driver of another car. The driver of the other car was not an LAPD employee. That person filed a police report about the incident. It turned into a personnel complaint when the license plate on the suspect’ scar were run through a computer system. The car turned out to be registered to an off-duty LAPD officer named Kevin Gaines. This complaint was not sustained because there were no independent witnesses or physical evidence.

    I have met Frank Lyga exactly twice. During our second meeting, I persuaded him to discuss the shooting. Lyga seemed genuinely distraught about it. He seemed sincere when he said that he had no idea Kevin was a cop.

    My sources throughout the Department have told me that the investigators in the shooting of Kevin Gaines received marching orders from then Chief of Police Bernard Parks. Those orders were to find Lyga guilty of misconduct. Some of those investigators were allegedly ordered to “lose” evidence that tended to show that Kevin had started the incident that resulted in his death. There was video from surveillance cameras along the road that showed Kevin pulling a gun and pointing it at Lyga. There was also that prior personnel complaint.

    My sources within the Department tell me that some of the investigators were outraged over their orders to disregard the evidence. Some of those investigators gave Lyga and his attorney copies of those pieces of evidence that tended to prove that Lyga was not guilty. My sources tell me that Lyga and his attorney used that evidence to blackmail Parks into finding that Lyga had done nothing wrong.

    For the record, Kevin Gaines was the off-duty police officer who was shot and killed. Frank Lyga was the on-duty, undercover, officer who shot Kevin Gaines. It was not the other way around.

    Let me stress this now – I do not know for certain what happened then and there when Kevin was shot and killed. I believe that Kevin was probably going through some hard times and that he made a mistake. I believe that he acted out of anger and bitterness. I believe that he was simply unlucky when the driver that Kevin pointed a gun at turned out to be an on-duty undercover LAPD officer. I believe that he never intended to shoot Lyga. Had he intended to do so, Lyga would not have been able to draw his own gun, aim it at Kevin, and pull the trigger. I also believe that Lyga had no way of knowing what Kevin’s intentions were.

    I can say for certain that cops tend to tell stories about their experiences. Those stories tend to grow more dramatic with each telling. The details get embellished, the dangers get exaggerated, and the teller’s own actions become more heroic. These are “fish stories”. I have doe this kind of thing myself from time to time.

    I think that Lyga was probably telling one such fish story when he chose to open his mouth while teaching a class full of experienced cops. He showed incredibly poor judgement and insensitivity. He said some things that he simply never should have said. He should be punished for that. It was, in the language of the LAPD, “rude and discourteous” and “conduct unbecoming an officer”.

    I don’t think that Kevin’s experience on the LAPD was a matter of race. I don’t think that his death was a matter of race. I think it was a matter of stress, anger, depression, and PTSD leading to a very serious mistake. I have known officers of every race who have succumbed to similar pressures and made very grave errors.

    I grieve for the loss of the young man I remember who was always cheerful, always trying to do the right thing, and who dedicated his life to serving the people of Los Angeles. I grieve for his family. I grieve for the waste of a human life and all of the potential that his life represented. I even grieve over the pain and difficulty that this has caused Frank Lyga.

    I do not need to be told to remember this tragedy. I remember it all too frequently as it is.

  • LAPD Jaded

    I agree, I was there, and as a young officer it forever changed my view of the LAPD.

  • white supremacists can’t stay away from sites for the Black community. They obsessed, they act like they hate us, but stay all over the sites that inform us. no lives of their own, for people so “superior”. smh

  • i wonder why it is that bullies always expect justice when they become the victims? I truly love the old English proverb: Turnabout is fair play.

  • Depends on whom they serve and protect? Would I serve and protect my sworn enemy? Certainly not! The rules of argument states that he who asserts must prove. if you make the bold claim to serve and protect and you expect ALL PERSONS to believe that, THEN YOU MUST ACTIVELY PROVE THAT YOU ARE DOING SO. if you shoot some like dogs for the same actions that you would try to curb by other means in others, how do you expect intelligent people to believe you?? It is definitely not rocket science, people.

  • Mr Smith

    I’m very curious who the white supremacists in this comment thread are? In fact, unless they’ve explicitly identified themselves as a particular race (as you have), I have no idea what race any of these people are.

    It sounds, however, that a differing opinion from Jasmyne’s – and that of your own by extension – would somehow indicate to you a person who is not black? That’s rather racist of you.

    And why exactly should white people “stay away from sites for the black community”? Isn’t seeing the world through the eyes and understanding of a person of another color the entire point of integration? That through diversity we are able to overcome so-called biases and prejudices? So on the one hand, you yearn for a world where white people are inclusive and understanding – generally more accepting of black culture…but on the other hand, they better stay the hell away from your blogs and anything else that’s supposedly for blacks? Hypocritical.