South LA LAPD Shooting Doesn’t Pass Smell Test

We’re not against the police. We’re not against the police department, but we are against police who commit misconduct (and those who help cover it up).

 

I have it on good authority that there’s more to Monday’s South Los Angeles shooting on 43rd Street near Figueroa than has been reported.

It was played up in the media as a pair of LAPD detectives just being fired on for no reason whatsoever.

However, I’m told it didn’t quite go down that way.

So allow me to offer an alternative scenario.

I’m told that that the LAPD Gang and Narcotics Division Gang Field Unit detective who fired was staked out near the suspect’s house in an undercover vehicle– a blacked out Nissan Altima to be exact. Which I have to add is usually a no no. It’s never a good idea to sit that close to a suspect’s house in a car with tinted windows and here’s why.

Allegedly the suspect’s sister drove by and noticed the undercover vehicle and did a U-turn and actually pulled up next to the vehicle. The detectives inside did not identify themselves to her at that point. In fact, I’m told they did nothing–which I have to say is not a smart move on their end. You’re in the hood, in a blacked out vehicle and in a neighborhood known for gang violence. I’m just saying, at that point the jig was up and from what I am told they could have prevented the whole situation from unfolding the way that it did.

I’m told the sister of the suspect, being the good sister that she is, went to her brother’s house and told him that there was a suspicious vehicle parked outside.

Now this might not have been my approach, but allegedly that’s when the suspect came outside and began to approach the undercover vehicle with the detectives inside. That’s when the detective either rolled down the window or got out of the car and I’m told started shooting and the rest is history. Well sort of.

Some news media is reporting that it was not clear who fired first.

KTLA reported that the suspect opened fire on the LAPD officers, who were sitting in their car.

What is known is that suspect was shot and then transported to the hospital.

Since then, the suspect allegedly told the LAPD’s Force Investigative Division (FID) that he thought the person or persons in the car were gang members.

I’m told that Detective P as we’ll call him, told the FID that he was there to arrest the man because he was a possible attempted robbery or attempted murder suspect and that he approached the undercover vehicle just out of the blue and began shooting at the detectives first for no apparent reason.

Detective P is said to have a shaved head and a goatee and I will remind you was sitting in a car with black tinted windows in a neighborhood he clearly wasn’t a resident in.

On another note, I am also told that Detective P is the partner of one Detective Steven Razo.

Razo is one of the officers involved in the brutal October 16 beating of 22-year-old Clinton Alford that took place in Newton Division and also involved the Gang and Narcotics Division. Alford was riding his bicycle when several LAPD officers viciously beat him and kicked him in the head, ultimately rendering him unconscious. There is video of this incident but I’m told it’s under lock and key by the LAPD.

Detective P was allegedly nearly terminated in 2005 after an Internal Affairs investigation found that he made false and misleading statements.  In the end he was demoted and suspended.

I think this latest shooting might have actually been set into motion by bad strategy and tactics on the part of the LAPD.

But we’ll see, we’ll see.

I can tell you that a lot of folks in the department think it stinks.

What I do know is that if I were one of these reporters covering this story I might go and find the sister of said suspect and ask her what happened.

 

Update

Seems that the lead detective involved in this officer-involved-shooting (or officer-provoked-shooting depending on who you ask) did not file a Operational Planning Strategy with his bosses before heading out the door.  An OPS is a mandatory plan that has to be filed with the higher ups prior to say serving a search warrant or setting up on a house you think a suspect is hiding in. It’s kind of like a CYA thing also in terms of potential risk and liability in matters such as these for the department.  Anyway, this detective didn’t have one, and with this being his second shooting and all I’m told now the Gang Field Unit from Gang and Narcotics are all being ordered to attend some remedial tactics/shooting policy training–and they aren’t happy about it.

The Court of Public Opinion

  • Mr Smith

    The truth matters to Jasmyne on a selective basis.

    There is a post, still active on this blog, which doesn’t pass the smell test.

    I have it on the best authority that though Jasmyne would like us all to believe she searches only for the truth; the truth matters not, in her opinion, when it fails to support her prejudices. There is an officer of the law she has knowingly and publicly slandered and to this day she remains unrepentant and unaccountable.

    Nothing she says can be trusted until she takes responsibility for her own misdeeds.

  • chixnhawk

    get a life… I was allegedly told that this idiot brought a gun to do his own investigation. unfortunately for him he messed with the wrong guys… to bad so sad.

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  • Tyndon Clusters

    When i read some of the stuff on this site, it is hard to argue that many issues are raised here that aren’t raised in other media.

    Thanks Jasmyne. If the LAPD has a tape that exonerates the officers, don’t you think it would have been released by now?

    If it makes them look bad, they stonewall till the fuss dies down.

    Look at that one case where they missed the video of one of them lying about finding drugs that a suspect supposedly threw away, but the video showed different and the officers were convicted of perjury.

  • Citizen

    Putting the blame on the cops again. No accountability for the dumbass that walked outside, armed, to confront the individuals in a car, who could have been armed themselves, who could have been potential gang members? How about do the right thing and just call the police about the suspicious vehicle. That’s what’s wrong with you Jasmyne, you think your people can do no wrong and place no accountability on their part.

  • guest

    Something similar happened 3 years ago about a half mile away. It seems like a pattern.

  • SurfPuppy619

    Don’t tell me, you’re a GED cop!

  • Bobby Lee Smith

    So you think the officers should give up the stakeout because a girl (the sister of a gang member) thought they looked suspicious? How do u know they even acknowledged her. The jig is up… According to you. Cops, and anyone else in America have a right to sit in a car on a public roadway. This gang member brought the shooting on himself. Why is that so hard to see?

  • Bobby Lee Smith

    Do you know that cops in LA stop hundreds of people ever day. Go take a statistics class. 3 years ago, half a mile away. I bet hundreds of people have been stopped at that radius and very few have been shot by the police

  • Guest

    Well, there it is…the stupidest thing I’ve read all day. Let me get this straight, people of color have the right to sit in a car with tinted windows in a public place everywhere in this country with exception of the hood? If they decide to do so, they should expect to get shot at, and the one shooting into the car is justified in bangin’ on the person in the car because they are notknown in that neighborhood?

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  • actually, plenty people are harassed by police for sitting in their own parked car . more than one has been killed by police while sitting in their own car

  • Bobby Lee Smith

    You call it harassed I think many people call it good police work. Would you like to guess how mNy crimes have been prevented and solved by “harassment.” Cops are not tow truck drivers. Call comes, take the car. They look for clues

  • ‘look for clues’ … when they come for you, i hope someone films it so i can enjoy …