Statement on the Firing of LAPD Detective Frank Lyga

Below is my official response to the firing of Los Angeles Police Detective Frank Lyga.

“It is unfortunate that only after the media reported on Detective Frank Lyga’s comments did the Los Angeles Police Department finally investigate an incident that happened nearly one year ago—even though it was immediately reported to command staff at the time.  They knew about it and choose to ignore it until it was reported on in the news and that fact should not be overlooked.

Detective Frank Lyga wrote his own termination when he said what he said.  No one held a gun to his head and he didn’t make his comments under duress.  In fact, after listening to the audio, it’s quite clear that in that moment Detective Lyga was the star of his own show, courtesy of the LAPD.

I understand that throughout Detective Lyga’s career he has done some great work on behalf of the department and public safety.  It’s unfortunate that all of that work has come down to 26 minutes of audio in which he seemingly gloated in the 1997 killing of Los Angeles police officer Kevin Gaines.

His comments about killing Officer Gaines as well as his lack of respect for his colleagues, namely Captain Lillian Carranza, Lieutenant Paul Vernon, and Sergeant Derwin Henderson were despicable and areminder of the ‘old LAPD’ that Chief Charlie Beck constantly says is a thing of the past.  Detective Lyga’s name calling of African-American attorney’s Johnnie Cochran and Carl Douglas were offensive and reprehensible.

The only thing more disgusting than what Detective Lyga said and did was the fact that out of a room full of sworn peace officers, only one had the wherewithal to say and do anything about it.  It’s scary to think that there are men and women with a badge and gun working the streets of Los Angeles County who didn’t find anything wrong—and on many occasions laughed at what Detective Lyga said.  Law enforcement always tells us civilians that when we see something, say something — but in this instance with the exception of one person, no one said anything.

I strongly urge Los Angles County District Attorney Jackie Lacey to listen to the audio and to take a second look at the 1997 killing of Kevin Gaines by Detective Lyga.  Especially the comments around Detective Lyga having run into him prior to the altercation that left Gaines dead.

There is no statute of limitations on homicide and even though I know that Gaines’ killing is not an issue the Los Angeles Police Department wishes to relive, I think the Gaines family as well as his colleagues and friends deserve to know the truth about whether or not Officer Gaines was killed in self-defense as Detective Lyga contends or murdered in cold blood as part of a sanctioned hit by the LAPD as mentioned by Lyga in that same training at the Police Academy.

I am not against the police.  I am not against the police department, but I am against police who commit misconduct and those who help to cover it up.”

The Court of Public Opinion

  • Joe

    I guess Lyga was not quite a Hillman. If I was Lyga, I would sue the hell out of the City of Angels for unfair practices and straight up favoritism. Why fire Lyga for speaking his mind, when Hillman did the same, then LIED to Internal Affairs when questioned?? Id rather work with a shit talking cop then a straight up liar like Hillman. Damn shame.

  • colonelkilgore

    Kevin Gaines was a dirty cop. That fact was buried by then chief Bernard Parks. Gaines was a close associate of dirty LAPD cops David Mack and Rafael Perez, and was also working off duty for Death Row records. Of course there is no mention of that in this story.

  • Pio Pio

    Jasmyn, THANK YOU! Without you taking the lead and exposing this the Departmetn would have let it run out of statue and buried it. The discipline system is broken and corrrupt. There is only “who you know or what you know.” If you know where the skeleton are buried for the Command staff that is. IIf you know somebody like HIllman (Chief Hillman’s nephew) he keeps his job. If you “know “top secrets” like Ed Pape (The former Professional Standards Bureau Commander just look at the most recent transfer)…then you get a downgrade or what is known as a “time out.” Talk about the fox watching the hen house. IT IS A CORRUPT AND UNFAIR COMMAND!!!!!!

  • Jacaranda

    Lyga shot Gaines because Gaines provoked him and was about to shoot him. It’s called self defense and that’s what they teach at the academy and that’s what anyone would do confronted with the same situation. That shooting was investigated very thoroughly and extensively and Lyga was found guilty of nothing. Nothing.
    During that investigation he was harassed by IA investigators who following the orders of Chief Parks had to find something on him. They did not.
    Gaines was a criminal. He was a gangster and him being called a Police Officer is offensive to the thousands of LAPD cops. He was just carrying a badge to further his criminal entreprise. Exactly like Perez and Mack.
    Now, Lyga has a big problem with his mouth and he is not going to be selected to be our next ambassador to Russia. He has a big mouth that he can’t keep it shut. No doubt. Douglas being a litlle “Ewok”? That’s certainly humiliating and disparaging but racist? The rest is subject to discipline I’m with you on that but firing the guy? The Chief has left the City wide open to a lawsuit considering that Hillman did much worse. I think a suspension of many days, 10 to 22, would have been more appropriate.

  • SurfPuppy619

    The Chief has left the City wide open to a lawsuit considering that Hillman did much worse.
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    You are not going to be able to argue in court- and win anyway- that because Hillman was not fired but should have been that Lyga gets a free pass. Two wrongs do not make a right. And since Lyga has 28 years in out of 30 until full retirement I doubt he can argue he lost much by getting canned 2 years shy of the 30, his only possible argument for damages.

  • SurfPuppy619

    Hillman should have been canned, we all know that, but that argument is not going to fly in a lawsuit or court action to get Lyga his job back.

  • Jacaranda

    Two wrongs don’t make a right but the LAPD discipline system is supposed to be based on fairness, equity and its sanctions are also supposed to be standardized. Now Lyga had no intentions of retiring after 30 years. He loved his job and he would do it for free. This is a guy who was going to better John St John and Jack Giroud in longevity. And full retirement is not 100% of your last paycheck.

  • SurfPuppy619

    I agree about Beck and the double standard, But a judge will not over rule the firing based on that. Retirement has built in COLA’s, usually around 3%, so after a few years the pension will exceed the salary.

  • wimpdick

    You need to recognize that this guy represented the LAPD on that night that he decided to make his racist and sexist comments. He was on the property of the City of Los Angeles instructing in service LAPD officers that contained an ethnic and gender mixed class. Officer in that class did Lyga no favors by allowing his rant to continue without showing some disgust for his message. In this current LAPD, race and gender or any other type of discrimination shouldn’t be tolerated by anyone. I also agree that the Chief made an error in judgment by not terminating Hillman for his outright lying to investigators as his Board of Rights had recommended.

  • wimpdick

    You can have both the M F because I would prefer not to work with neither

  • Boomshaka

    Termination was Warranted and administered! The remarks made by Lyga were clearly in violation of the City of Los Angeles anti Discrimination Policy and in Violation of Federal Laws and Statues Governing the workplace.

  • Boomshaka

    Lyga has no grounds for appeal and certainly ZERO GROUNDS FOR A LAW SUIT!! The City of Los Angeles would easily defend itself against a racist once his deposition were taken and the evidence presented to one of the Politically Correct Left Leaning Juries of Los Angeles City, County or in Federal Court. The only thing Lyga has coming hopefully, is a reinvestigation of his on-duty murder of another Police Officer!

  • Boomshaka

    Bing a Gang Member or a Racist is not against the LAW yet! There are tons of cops who work off duty for all kinds of shady people! Working for Death Row Records is not against the law either so NOW WHAT?????

  • Boomshaka

    There is and will always be punishment levied against people that is not the same. But State Law allows it! The courts cannot interfere with the Department discipling its employees. You would know that if you knew anything at all. OH and BTW all COPS LIE!!!! Cmon Man!!!! IF think I’m wrong look at how many people are found guilty who are still working carrying badges and guns who deny Internal Affairs Allegations and are then found guilty.

  • colonelkilgore

    The work he was doing for Death Row involved all sorts of illegal activity.

  • ugh

    FYI LAPD specifically prohibits employees from consorting with felons of any type. You can and should be terminated if as a police officer you choose to be in the company of criminals.

  • Tyndon Clusters

    So, in other words, the LAPD had not only a gangsta criminal on its payroll but also a severely disturbed white guy who obviously has huge issues with his temper, his demeanor, his behaviour and his choice of words.

    So when critics complain about the LAPD and the miscreants on the job, they are referring to Gaines AND LYGA.

    But to white racists, its always the black guys fault.

    Did you listen to the tape moron? Lyga is bragging about killing the SOB and blackmailing the COP if prosecuted.

    Both Gaines and this lunatic are both representative of the old LAPD
    and its good riddance to both of them.

    Its just that I don’t see too many black officers defending Gaines, yet I see many white officers defending this douche.

  • jacaranda

    Well we’ll see about the lawsuit.
    When you guys talk about ” re investigating” the Gaines shooting, you really mean sending Lyga up the river. You don’t care about the truth which was established by several inquiries from the DA, LAPD etc….You just want Lyga guilty. He was not. The evidence showed that he defended himself. Is that so difficult to accept?

  • ugh

    big difference between the two. lyga served honorably for many years.. gaines was a criminal and dishonored our badge. maybe cops of all colors are getting a little tired of everything being attributed to race. there are other factors in play that are more relevant than the white, black, hispanic, asian aspects of a situation. the discipline system is equally broken for all of us.

  • Tyndon Clusters

    I will agree that if I were an LAPD officer and looked at the Lyga and Hillman penalties, it would seem to me that Hillman’s prima facie remarks were worse than Lyga’s and the punishments should be reversed.

    However, I listened to that tape and Lyga was anything but remorseful or expressing any second thoughts about killing another human being AND a fellow cop.

    It sounded like a jock talking after a football game about how he waxed the other player. The guy was the Police Academy for chrissakes! And it reflects poorly on the LAPD that they would tolerate that attitude from the Gates era.

    I’ve been around a little and you can tell who the idiots are and Lyga is one of them. Yeah, he may have been a good “cop” but isn’t LAPD full of “good’ cops? I believe 90% are, but the 10% bad apples are always covered up by the blue silence.

    Jasmine is right. Lyga said those things and has no one to blame but himself.

  • Patron

    BTW, is Hillman back at work yet or is he still off at the taxpayers expennse because of the stress his actions caused him?

  • the guro

    Gangster where is all this coming from. Because he was black that made him a gangster.

  • the guro

    The facts that we all know is that Liga was taped during a class training and that it was misconduct. Where does the factual information that Gaines was a gang member please prove that. He worked for Knight productions which was owned by a female. He knew Perez and Mack. How does anyone know he hung out with them. Does someone have pics of them together. Damn people get real. Let’s stick to facts the tape of the training class

  • The myth that Officer Gaines was a gangster working for Suge Knight was created to sell books. I encourage everyone to ask former Detective Russell Poole to give us facts about his accusations about Gaines and then ask Russell Poole how he feels about Frank Lyga now after Lyga lied to him about recognizing Officer Kevin Gaines before he murdered him.

  • jacaranda

    Not his job back but plenty of $$$.

  • Disgraced LAPD Det. Frank Lyga knew he was shooting a Los Angeles Police Officer
    https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=728469947195916&l=5271319820990770280

  • SurfPuppy619

    The remarks made by Lyga were clearly in violation of the City of Los Angeles anti Discrimination Policy and in Violation of Federal Laws and Statues Governing the workplace.
    =
    Why wasn’t Hillman fired too?

  • SurfPuppy619

    Not his job back but plenty of $$$
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    He is only losing 2 years, if that, I don’t see too much in damages.

  • SurfPuppy619

    Good question. And just WHAT will he be assigned once back to work. He can NVER, EVER testify in court again after he straight up lied to IA about his actions at the bar/club…he would be laughed out of court.

  • moore2317

    THAT IS SURELY NOT A TRUE STATEMENT ABOUT THE DISCIPLINE SYSTEM BEING EQUALLY BROKEN FOR ALL OF THE FOLKS!!!!

  • moore2317

    SO THAT GIVES LYGA AN EXCUSE OR REASON TO KILL HIM!!!??? LET’S GET REAL HERE!?!

  • moore2317

    WERE YOU THERE??? YOU ONLY KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD!!! THE RECORDING DID NOT CALL IT SELF DEFENSE AND IT CAME OUT OF LYGA’S MOUTH!!!

  • moore2317

    LYGA TOLD ON HIMSELF NO MATTER WHAT WAS REPORTED!!!

  • moore2317

    THERE’S THE GOOD AND THERE’S THE BAD THAT ARE SERVING LAPD AND OTHER AGENCIES IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. THE BAD ONLY MAKE IT BAD FOR THE GOOD AND THEY (THE BAD) NEED TO GO! LYGA’S TEACHING AND STATEMENT HAD TO INSTILL BAD THOUGHTS INTO SOME OF THE FOLKS DURING TRAINING AS TO WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHAT THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH.
    LOOK AT STEPHANIE LAZARUS, FORMER LAPD DETECTIVE, SENTENCED TO 27 YRS TO LIFE FOR THE MURDER SHE COMMITTED IN 1986!!! FOR 23 YEARS OR BETTER SHE REPORTED TO WORK, MADE A GOOD NAME FOR HERSELF, YET SAT AMONGST COWORKERS FOR ALL THOSE YEARS KNOWING SHE KILLED A WOMAN!!! DID SHERI RASMUSSEN DESIRED TO DIE? WHAT EXCUSE OR REASON DID LAZARUS GIVE FOR KILLING THIS WOMAN? WAS SHE DIRTY? DO YOU WANT TO BE WORKING WITH SOMEONE WHOSE IN A POSITION TO PROTECT AND TO SERVE KNOWING THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF KILLING FOLKS FOR WHATEVER REASON THEY SO GIVE? I DON’T THINKS SO…

  • Jacaranda

    Gaines was reaching for his gun. Have you conveniently forgotten that little fact? Lyga was simply faster.

  • ugh

    take off your race blinders.. broken is broken… officers of one group don’t get to corner the market on saying so.

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